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Old February 9th, 2006, 01:11 PM
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Borland C++ Builder

Hiya guys, absolutely new to C++ programming. Been hacking away at it for a week or so, and getting the basic idea of it. Working with two editors atm Bloodshed Dev-C++ and Borland C++ Builder 5. Was mainly wondering if these are covered within this forum?

I'm having bit more difficulty learning from Borland than just creating a simple terminal program. I'm for here on out going to refer to none win32 C++ as basic C++. Now in Basic C++ I find it easier to rip programs apart and figure out how they work by following their header files, calls to functions and such. Though Borland is looking alot more like gibberish leading me to dead-ends, or just syntax that I just don't understand. Is there a site with some nice tutorials to give me a better understanding of building up a win32 application? I mean the simple tutorial that came with borland is a text editor, though it gave me an understanding of the Action Lists, still little lost on what has control how variables are acting (Global, local).

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Old February 9th, 2006, 02:31 PM
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Well, Borland is not covered a lot here, since it's expensive software. Most of us here either use DevC++, or like me, stick to their own editor (in my case: PFE and VI) and use Gcc or G++ directly.

I've done some developing in Borland though, and once you get the hang of it, Win32 applications are doable. I have a tutorial somewhere, but it's in dutch :-P

However, I've heard in the grapevine, and will be trying it out soon, that it is very possible to create window applications with DevC++, and I've come to understand, that these can be compiled both to Windows, and to Linux. Which would be a great feature.
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I have seen in Dev-C that there are some templates set up for Win32. So maybe we can start from there. In all realism you can create win application from any C++ compiler to my knowledge. From my understand it's just that the functions and headers to complete such tasks are just included. Though of course I just started I could be wrong, would like further comments confirming this.

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sntrix, you're correct... the advantages of one IDE to another are simply which headers it ships with and what type of GUI it provides to help with your tasks... do keep in mind that some compilers produce better optimized code for certain environments.
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So are there some basic tutorials you could point me to that could help me grasp mutual fuctions that are being used in this? Or even point me to another forum?

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Must say I have very little experience with this.
Most of my programming in C is done for terminals or for embedded applications. And most microcontrollers don't have window managers.. They don't even get memory management :-)

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Hiya guys, absolutely new to C++ programming. Been hacking away at it for a week or so, and getting the basic idea of it. Working with two editors atm Bloodshed Dev-C++ and Borland C++ Builder 5. Was mainly wondering if these are covered within this forum?

I'm having bit more difficulty learning from Borland than just creating a simple terminal program. I'm for here on out going to refer to none win32 C++ as basic C++. Now in Basic C++ I find it easier to rip programs apart and figure out how they work by following their header files, calls to functions and such. Though Borland is looking alot more like gibberish leading me to dead-ends, or just syntax that I just don't understand. Is there a site with some nice tutorials to give me a better understanding of building up a win32 application? I mean the simple tutorial that came with borland is a text editor, though it gave me an understanding of the Action Lists, still little lost on what has control how variables are acting (Global, local).

Thanks for any help.


Drop the Borland. I got Borland C++ Builder 6 and it sucks. If that is the one you got then I recommend you to return it. If you look at past post about my complains it mostly was cause of the compiler so I highly recommend to try all your programs in Dev C++.

Only good thing about Builder is that is looks very organize but really it sucks.

I also don't recommend Beginning C++ Programming get something else. The book I recommend is C++ For Dummies but I know there are better books out for beginners.(I know you weren't asking for books but you said you only had a week or two in this. Well good luck and have fun programming

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Drop the Borland. I got Borland C++ Builder 6 and it sucks. If that is the one you got then I recommend you to return it. If you look at past post about my complains it mostly was cause of the compiler so I highly recommend to try all your programs in Dev C++.

Only good thing about Builder is that is looks very organize but really it sucks.

I also don't recommend Beginning C++ Programming get something else. The book I recommend is C++ For Dummies but I know there are better books out for beginners.(I know you weren't asking for books but you said you only had a week or two in this. Well good luck and have fun programming


Introduction to C++ by Robert Lafore is best for beginners.It has lots of snippets and is an organized book.

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I'm actually learning quite a bit from an online free book Thinking in C++, 2nd ed. Volume 1 by Bruce Eckel. Though I'm only up to chapter 3, it seems in high detail. Does go a bit over my head, but that's how I like it... making it a challenge keeps it interesting for me, and the main reason I wanted to get into programming in the first place. You may see me asking questions here and there so that I can grasp the full understanding of it.

So how it seems everyone is recommended learning C++ instead of trying to jumping into any Win32 application programming.

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