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PHP5.x 6 54.55%
PHP4.x 5 45.45%
PHP3.x 0 0%
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Which PHP Version?

Which version of PHP do you develop in?
Additionally, perhaps throw in if you develop freelance (and for smaller companies), or larger organizations (and part of a team)... or are you just learning?

Were you taught PHP in High School/College/University/Technical School?
How long ago, and which version?

I guess only the major versions count... most minor increments are similar enough... so I'm limiting this to PHP3.x, PHP4.x, PHP5.x

Note, the form above looks like a spam/ad... it's a poll posted as a part of this thread... have your vote and leave a message! =)
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Could you make it a multiple-options poll?

My private development is all done in PHP 5, but for work I'm stuck with 4...

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I work for a small company (contract, not freelance), originally in a team, but currently solo. (Development is done, only maintenance now).
I taught myself PHP when I started this job. Started (I think) with the one of the last versions of PHP 3, but may have been an early PHP 4.
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hmm, I can't seem to edit the poll... oops... sorry.

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Ya, that's a shame... =)

Just pick one... which do you do more often?

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Old August 2nd, 2006, 06:33 AM
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Picked 5, Its a tie, and I like 5 better :-)

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I'm fluent in 4, but attempting to train a friend in PHP... would it be in his best interested to learn 5?
I'm under the impression a lot of hosts don't support 5 still.

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I'd certainly teach him 5.

Differences aren't that big on the whole. Only once you start using classes you'll notice it. And you don't want to use classes in PHP 4... You really don't...

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I agree with Itsacon. I'm fluent in 4, but I also know what an OO language should be (fluent in Java/C++ and others) and PHP 4 really stinks at OO

Eventually people will move to 5 (heck they are already making 6) and teaching the PHP 4 object mechanism is really useless.. Unless he has to maintain/develop a lot in PHP 4 offcourse..

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I currently develop in 4.x.x for flexibility in hosting and for clients. Besides, the web apps I create don't require PHP5 yet though I hope to move up within the next year. I freelance small projects every so often, and I work as a web Dev.

I took some time to learn PHP4 the better part of the fall 2005 but had been programming in ASP for nearly 5 years, so it was an easy transition using common sense. Just new syntax and general calls, but still the same basic idea. Cert in ASP.

I'm currently a rising Senior in High School with an undecided career future.

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senior in high school, self-taught php?
five years experience in asp??

i'd say programming and web development is a good career future

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I Appreciate your comments =] I started in 7th grade wanting to make a online game simular to a fun game called Secrets of War which was in ASP so that's where my roots were. I enjoy programming and have been on and off this board in the past but never registered and contributed so now I hope to offer what I've learned and give back to the community =]

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Php

My previous host had version 4, so that's what I wrote for. I was a bit hesitant to go to ver. 5, but my new host offered phpBB, but only for ver 5, so I went for it. I can't say it made much difference. (more noticeable was the change to the new host. A few scripts that relied on globals being on didn't work so I had to fix them. And I hadn't thought I was using any globals surprise)
I started writing code in Basic, so I tend to think procedural, not OOP. But I have done a bit in Java, and have used some OOP now that my PHP version supports it. I'm still very much an OOP newbie, but I'm slowly getting it. I can't say that I'll change over all my "grandfathered" script, but I'll probably try more OOP in my new scripts, maybe.
I don't make any money coding, I just do it for fun. I have taken a couple of college courses in programming logic (and 1 in Qbasic) , but my PHP knowledge (or lack thereof ) is all self taught.

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I think everyone above a certain age started in Basic somewhere along the line :-)

For normal programming, I prefer procedural as well, but for some web-apps, OO is very easy.

One feature of PHP5 I _really_ miss in 4 and earlier however, is exceptions. The option to do all your error catching in one catch() block is _so_ much better than the old way of endless if statements...

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PHP5 really is the only way to go if you are just starting out. If you are into using XML and OOP then PHP5 is pretty much your only choice.

Look at what has changed between PHP4 and PHP5 before you go and make a huge leap like that. However, the principals still stay between the two languages. The only thing that changes is the details. Also a lot more cool features are added.

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Here's a discussion question...
Let's assume I don't really use XML or OOP, is there any change at all?
Could I pretty much call myself a PHP5 programmer?

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Well there are some more changes (some functions here and there and some internals (improved memory manager)) but I guess if you do not use OOP or XML then PHP 5 is almost PHP 4. But I must add I do not have extensive experience with PHP 5.. On the other hand, if you do not use OOP (XML to lesser degree) are you allowed to say anything at all?

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I disagree that PHP5 and PHP4 (excluding the above) is nothing similar. PHP5 adds a lot of functionality with SQLLite and such. Also there are the introductions of try catch blocks which wasn't found in PHP4. Let's not forget that PHP5 has native MySQL 5 support whereas PHP4 is still back on MySQL 4 driver. You have to setup your passwords differently (have they changed that yet?) to ensure that it uses the OLD_PASSWORD type of scheme. I just disagree that PHP5 (excluding the above) is the same as PHP4.

Also, on my resume I list both PHP4 and PHP5 (even if you don't do 5). Reason being ... it looks great to employers.
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chadsmith729, ah you're right. I forgot about try-catch blocks, that's a real addition to the language. The rest are of course 'modules', and not real changes to the languages, but then again, so is the xml support..

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I started under PHP 3 while I was High School then switched over to PHP 4 very quickly when it came out (server I was working with switched). I havn't used PHP 5, the server's I am currently on have 4.

I am self taught and I do it for fun. I would love to do it proffessionally, but I don't feel that I have the neccessary expeience or skills to do it, though I do apply for the entry level jobs when I see them
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CHornJr, that's the very reason I never switched...
Why are web hosts taking so long to transition over to 5?

Certainly it can be considered stable by now!

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CHornJr, that's the very reason I never switched...
Why are web hosts taking so long to transition over to 5?

Certainly it can be considered stable by now!


My guess is that many of the people who own and/or manage the servers don't actually know a thing about the servers and it was an investment that came setup already.

Another thing might be because of differences in the 2 versions. Since I haven't used php 5 I don't truly know how PHP 4 code would be effected if run on a php 5 server

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