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Old October 25th, 2005, 12:00 PM
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Suggestion to add Folding hack to Dev Articles Forums

My esteemed colleague, Tejas has made a proposal in DevShed which I would like to share with the rest of the Dev domain. Since he put it so eloquently, I will let him say it:

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We have a Folding hack at DevHardware to promote the Stanford project of Folding at Home we are all proud part of. In a nutshell, 'Folding at Home' is a distributed computing project which analyzes effect of protein related abnormalities on cancer. On DevShed also, there has been a thread titled DevFolding . Many members from DevShed have been or currently are active folders and are helping our cause to help run those simulations on their computers and utilize their spare CPU cycles to cure diseases.

After seeing active interest of DevHardware members about folding, there was a hack proposed to encourage Folding among existing but unaware and new members coming there.
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I propose having similar hack incorporated here to promote this activity. We have many members here who rank among toppers in DevFolding team. The team name suggests that it is not only DevH specific team but represents the DevShed community as a whole. It will attract current and new members to know what Folding is and how much helpful they can be.

I sincerely request you all to visit the links I provided at least once. And give it your humble and honest thought. There are more folding related links in my signature. It takes nothing more than installing a small client on your computers. There are no spyware/adware/malware/virus related issues involved.

Also, JC and company: You have been very kind in allowing such improvements/changes on DevHardware. You know it doesn't hurt much to build this hack. If the turn up here is good enough, please give it a try!!


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I see this as an opportunity to promote a good cause and maybe get a little friendly competition going among all the regulars throughout JCs "empire."

What are your thoughts?

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They're looking for a cure to Bovine Spongiform Encephalopathy (BSE)?
Sounds like a conspiracy to get rid of DevArticles' best moderator. =)

Interesting project, I'll read up on it.

I hope I don't have to explain my introductory sentence

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DevArticles best moderator = MadCowDzz right
Yeah, according to his user rank, he's not even a moderator

btw, I don't fold, so I don't really have an opinion. I should fold, but I'm lazy
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I'm an Unmoderator, that's the best kind... it's an art acutally...
It's all about the art of disguise. Moderate in a way that the visitors don't even know they're being moderated.

I do'nt quite get this "folding"... is it just donating spare CPU power to build a super cluster?

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Ok..I will try to explain in simpler language!!

When you are using computer, not 100% of your CPU is utilized. Any OS you use, all the processes and applications don't use all your CPU power and System Idle Process uses a huge share without giving you any result.

Distributed Computing is a project where instead of having centralized computer labs, people are encouraged to participate in the project and the results of simulation is processed at one place.

Folding at Home, is one such project.(Imagine, how much it would cost to have millions of systems at one place to run simulations.) So, the client you install on your system runs the simulations and finally when one Work Unit is finished, the results are sent back to Stanford labs where they are processed, analyzed.

The simulation are run to utilized the share which System Idle Restore process eats away. All the work you do carries some points, so more your computer contributes, more points you get.

It is easy, installation free! Even if you don't have admin rights on a computer, you can run it! Internet connection is not absolutely necessary. You can run simulations without it and then it is only needed for sending results and receiving new Work Units.


Among the many distributed computing projects out there are seti@home and folding@home.

Seti@home is probably the most well-advertised and thus well-known programs out there, where one downloads a screensaver program that analyses radio signals captured from space for artifically created patterns which would indicate another intelligence in the universe.

Folding@home is a similar project, where one can download a screensaver that performs protein-folding simulations-- proteins are tremendously complex groups of amino acids which can fold themselves into many shapes, and it takes a lot of computing power to simulate that folding action for any particular protein. By distributing a folding sequence among thousands of computers worldwide, the scientists who need the data to figure out what the proteins do and whether this experimental drug or that is likely to do its intended job, can obtain results in a lot less time than if they had to wait for a chance on a supercomputer or two and wait for that it to do the sequence.

Stanford also provides a console-only client which concentrates on doing just the folding calculations without the overhead required to make the folding visualizations for the screen saver (the screen-saver version performs the visualizations regardless of whether they are visible or not). Those of us who are "serious" folders prefer to use the console-only client because that allows our computers to perform more folds than the screensaver would for a particular period of time.

In all cases of distributed computing, the client only runs when the computer is idle. The F@H client can be set to use as little or as much of the CPU's processing power as you wish, can be set to automatically dial out to send its results and download new tasks or to wait for you to give it permission to access the web. It can shut itself off if the laptop is on battery power, it can load as a service in WinXP so the process is absolutely transparent (and no one has to be logged in).

F@H simulates protein folds, this data is used by biochemists and medical scientists to investigate how drugs perform their jobs, how cancers, viruses and pathogens infect and spread within a host and investigate ways of preventing it.

The Stanford site has a lot of information on exactly what the current projects are for and what they have accomplished so far with the program.

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So the answer to "is it just donating spare CPU power to build a super cluster?" is yes? =)

How would one apply a "hack" to the Dev Articles forums?
Is it just a matter of convincing devshed staff and visitors to use this screensaver?

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no all the hack is is another little blob like your rep power, just says how much you fold etc...

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Like Viper said, it add a little icon next to the reputation blobs to indicate one folds and the number of icons is related to the amount of points one has gained folding for Dev.

For example, notice that I have three little "flowers," showing I have more than 20,000 points from folding.

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Update

JC has said he is taking the idea under consideration to add the hack to all the Dev Forums.

If this happens, I'm hoping to see a bunch of new names on the team

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Sounds like it's just another thing that I would have to ensure to remain the leader on the Member board =)

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Sounds like it's just another thing that I would have to ensure to remain the leader on the Member board =)


It might take a little work to become a leader in the Folding team, though.

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Doesn't the folding thing do it's stuff while my screensaver is running?
Wouldn't that mean I DON'T have to do work =)

Or am I lending more than just clustered computer power?

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you have to work it out by hand, it's for all the math geeks out there they give you the info to calculate and you do it and send back the answer hehe

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