Page 2 - A cry for Microsoft

I've heard good things about Mandrake 9.. I'm running 8.2 right now.. whats new in there that makes 9 so good?

do you like it? etc?

Never played with OS X... in fact, I was debating on getting an apple laptop with it on it.. dunno though, they're still expensive

I run Mandrake 9 and mostly like it. I've heard it's buggy, but I've not had much trouble with it. KDE3 is sweet, Gnome2 is pretty nice too.

I'm hanging for Mac OS X on x86. Grrr baby.

Stumps.. do you really think that they're going to port it over? It'd be nice to be able to play with it.. but I'm not sure how easy it would be to port it..

Not any time in the near future. If they did release it, Apple's hardware sales would plummet, effectively killing the company.

But - Apple do keep a version of OS X compiled for the x86 - apparently it's @ the same version the Mac ver is. I'm just waiting till it get's leaked. :P

That would be nice..

okay. so i know little of *nix, I use win xp... but I can understand all points made, even at my little use of other os's. But I have found XP very useful (well it's pro so I can't say a standard home would be as good) but, I like it. I can write my php on here, I use phpdev. It works pretty well. But I must say, I used to hate macs, until I took a video productions class, which used all macs. I realized then that there are many great apps for audio video development out there for mac, and while I havent got the money to try stuff out on a pc, I enjoyed the macs. Even though it's sort of like windows backwards (or windows is mac bacwards) in design, it worked well enough. Maybe I am wrong. But I know it would be great to have my pc here for my games and other things, and a mac with a huge hd and whatnot for audio video.

Okay, well I agree with everything stated afterall take it from someone who uses and supports OS X, NetWare 6, MCSA Windows 2000, RedHat 7.1 - 8.0

For the time being I primarily use Win 2k at home just because I'm stuck in the darkage of dialup and I don't have a hardware modem readily available. But I do run a Virtual PC with at least one version of RedHat pretty all the time.

Do I like the simplicity & ease of use of windows? Yes, I'm a lazy person after working 16+ hour days.

Do I appreciate MS's tactics? No.

For the time being I would like to say that Linux is the way to go for me on the server end. It packs a full featured OS with a small footprint as compared to a MS server running IIS, MS SQL and some other apps. Besides I've always felt that command-line is best at the server level (keeps people from trying to "fix" things on the server.

OS X macintosh with apache, php, mysql is a great development environment for web apps.

I've used it and it's by far more stable and faster than anything on windows.

surfish,

And you had no problems setting everything up?

I remember when I was shopping around for my notebook... The Apple guy told me I would have trouble setting up a programming environment (primarily Apache, PHP and MySQL... as well as Java) for my development needs....

I ended up purchasing a PC... Had I known!

I'm running an old PowerMac 7600 hot-rodded to the max with a G4 CPU and as much of everything as it could take... then add two monitors and a frankenstein collection of old SCSI peripherals. It's a monster, but it was cheap in the long run and still works well enough. Loading the "unsupported" Mac OS X onto it is a hack, but once it's in there, mostly no problems.

Marc Liyanage at entropy.ch has created a collection of double-clickable installer packages for PHP, MySQL, PostgreSQL and a whole lot more. These have worked very well for me. If you need Java, I believe it comes packaged with Apple's own Developer Tools, but I don't use Java myself.

Hydra is shaping up to be a pretty damn cool editor, even if you don't use its multi-headed editing features. There's also BBEdit which is pretty excellent if you get the full version.

I think it's going to be time for a real G4 soon. Those new G5s are probably too much for me, considering how well I'm still doing with a Mac from 1995!

Here is the updated URL to that article... sorry, forgot this was posted here... )

http://devbuilder.org/asp/news_article.asp?aspid=4