is Java still used??!!

I have just finished my Uni Degree in Multimedia Systems Design... and one of my qualifications is Java... I wondered to myself when I was learning this "what is the F**king point"

-- does ne1 still use Java on websites?!!

You could try JSP .. or something

what is JSP??

I was taught to write full Java applets....they were boring and sucked! We used Sillicon Graphics machines ... fancy machines for nothing!!!

there aren't many things u can do with java on the webe.

JSP and applets are the two thing u can do. But Java the language itself is very useful.

you can do

J# on .NET
Java on Sun's J2xx Platforms

Remeber... Java is platform independent. It means u can run java programs on Macs as well.

IMO, Java is a must know language for all application developers.

As I've developed websites, I haven't had the need to use Java. I have seen some games and website effects done with Java.

Java tastes good

I'm studying Java myself, and although I don't see many uses for it on the client-side, it's powerful on a server side. Although a good example of a client-side use is the Editize program.

My professors try to tell me that using applets is a wonderful thing when it comes to websites! All I can say is: haha!

For building applications it's incredible. As James pointed out, because it's platform independant, it has advantages other languages don't.

And because of the new release of J# .NET, many new uses have been introduced.

I think Java is, as i said before, a must know language for all programmers...

If you know Java employers will value that skill whether they need you to use that skill or not because Java Programmers are known for their great programming style. Meaning they use Design Patterns and Well structured Object/Class designs. This skill is used in C/C++, .NET and other OO languages and as well as it being attractive to employers it helps YOU too! bcuz java is a programming language that many other programming language has copied from. eg. C# and JavaScript is one, if you know JAva its easier to learn those languages.

JSP is a incredibly awesome thing. IMHO its better than ASP and probably PHP (altho ppl might argue) . Only thing about JSP is that not many host support it.

Okay now think other than Windows platform. On linux and unix, I think Java is the way to go. PHP,Python, PERL they are all scripting language and interpreted language. Java on the other hand is FULL OOP Compiled language. Unless you want to use C/C++ Java is definately the way to go...

Hope this helps

I1ve been studying java for a while now and I`ve come to the fact that it is very usefull for a server side programer because you can link your web page to a Database .

yes, but you can do that with php and asp as well, plus a number of other things

hehe sorry if i offend any php ppl here, but i gotta say it

Java is compiled language not interpreted language. Hence it's faster IMHO


But again, i wouldn't learn java just to do JSP. Java isn't really designed for web programming.. like VBScript wiht ASP...JSP is fully OOP but the jsp web programming model doens't really utilise OO like ASP.NET do.

I1m not familiar with php
so I cannot argue with you but I am going to read about it get to know it so that I have an opinion about it to.

So far JAVA is the programing language for me!: cool:

hehe i don't know PHP too other than the fact that its an interpreted language like python. I know python and apparently php is similar to python, performance wise.

BUT .. Java is still a good language to know. full stop!

I agree with you James, Java is a good language to know... but only cos it is one more language I have under my belt... I have not yet seen any applicatios for it in PHP / ASP style of programming..

apart from what was mentioned above... JSP... I might have a look in to that...

does anyone remember when Java first entered the web world?? I am not sure how far I go back.. but I've been on the web for around 5/6 years now... my first view of Java was creating a menu which used the applet... I thought it was the best thing EVER... now i see these menus and they just look terrible...

I think Java is secure though? I have used it before to enter my credit card details to some site....

I'll have to dig out my uni project I did for my Java assignment.. we had to make an online "adoption agency" for a zoo... god, it was dull....!!!
lol

Well, maybe JSP is a new line to look down?! Maybe next week.....

You will find many large corporations in the U.S. using JSP, writing JavaBeans and Servlets. Several very good products, like "Business Objects" are used extensively to deliver dynamic content, build data warehousing front-ends, and provide data mining over the web.

The advantage, aside from some reuse and quick development is it puts less strain on the server. As you know there is only one (or at least few) processes running compared to using CGI's or PHP.

My experience has been that JSP is great when you're managing many programmers working on a large project, but for a one-man shop as I am now, I use PHP, Perl, and JavaScript because it's faster for me to write and debug using these than with Java.

Well, that's my 2 cents worth

Ken Coumerilh
Kwc Online LLC
Pleasant Hill, Missouri, USA

Go with php, you cant go wrong

J2EE - the major competitior to microsofts .net framework.

Consists of Servlets, Enterprise JavaBeans and JSP.

Which are all very handy, the J2EE architecture itself is beautiful, complete seperation of presentation and business logic.

Java isnt just still around, its in your face.

However, I was also taught Applets, which arent good for much except games and some more dynamic features on websites like live chat etc.

A warning though, J2EE technology isnt for mere mortals, it takes some learning.

Morefire,

What's the hardest thing you found about learning J2EE? Our school just added the course to our program, but I'm not scheduled to take it until next semester.

Any information or tips would be helpful!