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Old December 20th, 2002, 01:02 AM
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What are all these IMO HTH RTFM and all other stuffs?

Hi...

Once and for all... I really want to know what all these means... and HOW they come about?

1. HTH
2. RTFM
3. IMHO

And are there any more that you guys always use? Im pretty new to PHP and I'm subscribed to php general mailing list.. I just dun understand what they all mean.

If there are more, please drop it in here as well.. so that I can learn...

Thanks!!!
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Old December 20th, 2002, 09:35 AM
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IMHO------ In my humble opinion
RTFM-------- Read the F..... manual! Unix admins unse this a lot when users ask dumb questions.
LOL------- Laugh out loud.
There's a bunch of these out there.
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A few others and variations:

ROTFLMAO -- Rolling on the floor, laughing my ass off
BRB -- Be right back
GTG -- Got to go
TTYL -- Talk [or Type] to you later
IMNSHO -- In my not so humble opinion
YMMV -- Your mileage may vary
IOW - In other words...

As for HOW these came about... it really goes back to the beginnings of the mass online world when people connected via dial-up BBSs (I used to run several). Because people either had daily time limits on how long they could be logged onto a system, or because of phone charges when connected, or just to avoid typing long phrases... people would use abbreviations in message posts and real-time chats to cut down their typing time. It soon developed into sort of a jargon for the online world, and has stuck through the demise of the BBS and into the 'Net days.

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Old December 20th, 2002, 07:30 PM
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Wow... kewl stuffs!

Thank you so much! I was so blur with all these acronyms they just bugged me. Now u guys have cleared the air for me

And thanks for that link lindset!



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Old December 21st, 2002, 10:49 PM
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As for HOW these came about... it really goes back to the beginnings of the mass online world when people connected via dial-up BBSs (I used to run several). Because people either had daily time limits on how long they could be logged onto a system, or because of phone charges when connected, or just to avoid typing long phrases... people would use abbreviations in message posts and real-time chats to cut down their typing time. It soon developed into sort of a jargon for the online world, and has stuck through the demise of the BBS and into the 'Net days.


Wow... I remember those days! I ran a few myself... What software did you use? Do you remember Renegade or PCBoard? I was even into ANSI and ASCII art, as well as MODDING (not cases, but music). I love reminiscing about the good 'ol days!

Would you go back if you could?
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Old December 22nd, 2002, 01:29 AM
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Wow... I remember those days! I ran a few myself... What software did you use? Do you remember Renegade or PCBoard? I was even into ANSI and ASCII art, as well as MODDING (not cases, but music). I love reminiscing about the good 'ol days!

Would you go back if you could?


I started out with RBBS, and then moved to Wildcat! Yes, I remember Renegate and PCBoard (the only thing I really hated about PCB was that all of the boards running it looked exactly the same... nobody seemed to do any customization... and the screen was so damn crowded!). I also had lots of fun with ansi art and RIPaint, short-lived as it was...

I really do miss those days, as most former sysops probably do. Not sure if I'd want to go back though... the toys today are just as fun (flash, PHP, etc). I miss the "community" though, before everything became so commercialized.

You might want to check out http://www.bbsdocumentary.com/ - a guy who's been working on a documentary about the bad 'ol days

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Old December 22nd, 2002, 01:34 AM
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Wow... this is really interesting guys. I think I was still drinking milk at that time...

That's the reason why I didn't know what those acronyms stood for.

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wow, now where goin old skool! i remeber those days. Me and my friends would always try to get the passwords for restricted areas. It never worked.

Now im sounding really old.

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I started out with RBBS, and then moved to Wildcat! Yes, I remember Renegate and PCBoard (the only thing I really hated about PCB was that all of the boards running it looked exactly the same... nobody seemed to do any customization... and the screen was so damn crowded!). I also had lots of fun with ansi art and RIPaint, short-lived as it was...


Yeah... I remember Wildcat... Never ran it myself, I wasn't crazy about the customization options...

As for PCBoard... I hated those "default" sites... I was into heavy customization (I think the artist in me controlled that ), so I changed EVERYTHING you can think of... I even created my own plug-ins... Renegade was another good system for customizing... I even went as far as customizing the internal sysop menus!! hehehe..

You're right though... Today's toys are so much nicer... but there will always be that feeling of nostalgia... I mean, it's where we started out!

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Old December 23rd, 2002, 01:00 PM
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Wow... this is really interesting guys. I think I was still drinking milk at that time...

That's the reason why I didn't know what those acronyms stood for.


Hehehe... It wasn't that long ago... mid-90's... hehehe...

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Old December 23rd, 2002, 02:12 PM
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Hehehe... It wasn't that long ago... mid-90's... hehehe...


Yeah... kinda scary when I think that I shut down my old BBS only 7 years ago!

Most customization fun I had was setting up a SearchlightBBS for a friend - had a complete RIP interface (RIP was when the BBS discovered hypertext, of a sort). Also played with MajorBBS, TBBS, but never actually ran a board with them.

Did you ever attend the BBSCONs that Boardwatch (Jack Rickard) ran (they were in Denver, Colorado Springs and Atlanta the first three years)?

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Old December 23rd, 2002, 06:24 PM
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huh? what? phpbb? what? vbulletin?

lol, i don know any of these BBS you guys are talking about
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Old December 23rd, 2002, 06:33 PM
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Same here...

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Old December 23rd, 2002, 06:38 PM
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* 10 Years in the future *

"You remember the oldschool days with all those php forums like phpBB, vbulletin, ikonboard?"

"Yeah, I can't believe they were that slow! They used PHP back then LOL! I even heard that if you wanted to customize it you had to make your OWN graphics and EDIT files!"

"Yeah! I can't believe people would actually use them!"

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Old December 23rd, 2002, 06:46 PM
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Old December 23rd, 2002, 06:48 PM
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huh? what? phpbb? what? vbulletin?

lol, i don know any of these BBS you guys are talking about


Just consider them the "founding fathers" of bulletin boards...

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Old December 27th, 2002, 11:36 AM
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Yeah... kinda scary when I think that I shut down my old BBS only 7 years ago!

Most customization fun I had was setting up a SearchlightBBS for a friend - had a complete RIP interface (RIP was when the BBS discovered hypertext, of a sort). Also played with MajorBBS, TBBS, but never actually ran a board with them.

Did you ever attend the BBSCONs that Boardwatch (Jack Rickard) ran (they were in Denver, Colorado Springs and Atlanta the first three years)?


Hehe... Thinking about it now... I actually shut mine down about 4-5 years ago... And it was still kicking when I took it down.... I think I played with MajorBBS, but never used it... There were so many different packages, but I always went back to PCBoard and Renegade/Telegard.

I never went... Did you? What was it like?

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Just consider them the "founding fathers" of bulletin boards...


Exactly... Forums are the closest things to the "message boards" we had back then... Only difference is that they were all text based (ansi and ascii)! I miss the days of ascii art!

Anyone else ever designed in ascii/ansi? I still remember desiging a few "file_id" files for "groups"! LOL!

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NO CARRIER


Okaay... what's that??

And how the hell did FOOBAR came about? I heard that it came from FUBAR which means "F**ked Up Beyond Recognition/Repair" .. which is often used in Military.. BUT how did it come about being used in programming?????

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Foobar.....good question. I'm guessing some programmer picked it up and thought "Hmm, here's a good couple of words to write examples with", and it went from there. Maybe.

BTW, HTH means "How The Hell".
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BTW, HTH means "How The Hell".


Hmmm... i thought HTH means "Hope This Helps"?

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Hmmm... i thought HTH means "Hope This Helps"?


Yes, that's correct. Something akin to "How The Hell" is usually spelled WTF, which I'll leave to you to figure out.

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Okaay... what's that??

And how the hell did FOOBAR came about? I heard that it came from FUBAR which means "F**ked Up Beyond Recognition/Repair" .. which is often used in Military.. BUT how did it come about being used in programming?????


Ahh... ask a question, and you sometimes get more info than you really want! For the etymology (well... one version at least) of FOOBAR, see www.catb.org/~esr/jargon/html/entry/foo.html courtesy of Eric Raymond.

By the way, +++ATH0 NO CARRIER is the code you see when your modem (remember the old Hayes standard?) would hang up. "AT" was the beginning code for all modem commands, standing for "ATtention", and "H0" was the hang-up command. The screen would usually display "NO CARRIER".

Geez... all this nostalgic info stuck in my head... good thing storage space is cheap these days!

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+++ATH0
NO CARRIER


Okaay... what's that??



It's not any kind of acronym, but I think us old-school BBS'ers recognize it. I was kinda hoping that it would nicely close off this silly thread, but you guys went on and replied to it... Anyway, here's the info (useless trivia these days.):

+++
modem escape sequence (start receiving modem commands).

AT
most all modem commands (Hayes compatible) started with ATtention.

H0
set Hook to zero (i.e. hang up.)

NO CARRIER
the response... means that the carrier signal has been broken.

Gah! you beat me to posting this, corker!

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Hmmm... i thought HTH means "Hope This Helps"?


My mistake, I guess I was taught wrongly

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Hi everyonefound this site just randomly..and as i love fashion and all the things that comes with it thought it would b a good idea to join...hope ur all friendly.. Look forward to 'meeting' you all.

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